Transcript: On the Salt with GotOne
S6, Ep 12: On the Salt with GotOne
2024, Marvin S. Cash
The Articulate Fly
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Transcript
Marvin:
[0:04] Hey, folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly, and we're back with another On the Salt with Got One with Captain David Blinken.
David, how are you doing?
David:
[0:13] I'm great, Marvin. How are you doing?
Marvin:
[0:15] I am almost done with my whirlwind show tour, so digging out and getting ready to go again.
David:
[0:22] I know. It was pretty cool seeing you over the weekend at Edison, New Jersey.
Marvin:
[0:26] Yeah, it was great. It's always great to spend time with people in person.
I got to see Lu Yen, and you made me famous. You put me up on Instagram.
David:
[0:35] I know. I know. You're part of my story now. We're going to keep it that way.
Marvin:
[0:41] Yeah, it's very, very neat. It was great walking around the show with you on Friday. We got to talk to some great people. You introduced me to Andy Mill.
I met some of the outfitters that you work with. It was pretty neat.
David:
[0:53] Yeah it was pretty cool Raul from Tarpontown got over I got a quick hello with Bob Popovics which is always kind of fun and some great fly tires like Johnny King so yeah I.
Marvin:
[1:08] Met Johnny for the first time we've got some common fishing friends and I tried to talk to Pops but I missed my window he was sitting on the ledge by Buzzy's booth and took off before I could get to him when the crowd wasn't so big.
David:
[1:22] Yeah yeah yeah i got lucky yeah.
Marvin:
[1:25] Any other highlights of the show for you.
David:
[1:29] I mean it was it's always good just to kind of touch base with people you haven't seen for a while i mean you know you think of the fly fishing community as a small little community but it really isn't it's it's quite it's quite big and uh it was just nice you know seeing andy and and and hanging out with johnny and and some of the people who've done the masters of the fly show over the years it was it was really nice yeah.
Marvin:
[1:53] And you got to uh you got to meet tim o'neill and michelle from norvice that.
David:
[1:58] Was really great uh meeting tim and watching him use the vice and show us how to use the bobbin and everything that was that was pretty cool that was a a great education yeah.
Marvin:
[2:08] I think when i ran into you he was doing some technical support for you what was your issue.
David:
[2:13] Well i just wanted to learn how to more effectively use the bobbin because his bobbin is different than any other bobbin uh so uh so you know getting used to it is one thing but actually using it properly is another so i got i got i got school oh there.
Marvin:
[2:31] You go and you know the interesting thing is because i was in denver the previous weekend and i've done some of the other foremski shows is you know it's interesting there is a very distinct not surprisingly northeastern saltwater field to the edison show.
David:
[2:47] Yeah. I mean, it's so interesting.
I mean, there's certainly a big trout crowd there, but, you know, when you're in the East coast of the United States, we have, you know, up and down the entire East coast.
If you just stay in North America, you know, from Mexico to Maine, you've got incredible opportunities for fishing.
And that's definitely reflected there.
You know, from bonefish and tarpon to striped bass and bluefish and everything in between, redfish, you know, black drum, you know, everybody's out there in the salt chasing it.
And so it does definitely have that feel.
Marvin:
[3:24] Yeah, definitely the highest per capita of captains that I think of any fly fishing show.
David:
[3:31] Well, yeah. Well, you have to realize that Edison is pretty much on the water.
And if in the summertime, if you're, you know, if you just drive a couple of miles, there's about 20 captains right within reach of that location.
Marvin:
[3:44] Yeah, very, very neat. And it segues really well into our question from Brenner.
He wanted to get your thoughts on your go-to rod and reel setups for inshore fishing.
David:
[3:54] Well, you know, that's such a great question, and it has multiple answers.
I'd like to give one simple answer and say, you know, I love an 8-weight with a floating line, but it's not really that simple.
If you're fishing for tarpon, let's say, maybe you're carrying a 10 or an 11-weight with you.
Um and depending on if you're fishing slightly deeper water like six seven feet or shallower water like three four feet you might be using um a clear sink tip or my line of choice is always a floating line um only because if you want to pick up the fly and re-throw it and represent it to a fish quickly a floating line is is really helpful um when i'm down at the bahamas fly fishing for bonefish if i could just have one rod um i would probably take an eight weight um and and i love royal wolf line so uh you know shameless plug but um i would have a royal wolf bermuda taper and for people who need a little extra help maybe a bermuda short um uh because usually with bone fish you're fishing them in fairly shallow water especially in the bahamas and for striped bass in the northeast um you know kid you know a nine wage probably uh a good all-purpose rod um.
[5:14] Uh you know occasionally you have windier days or in case you need to sling a line that sinks a little faster but uh certainly uh uh the the nine weights um come in really handy um for me personally i probably am still using an eight weight um and and the hardy uh marksman z rods that they just came out with they're are really spectacular um and uh and their new in their new uh fortuna reel uh they're they're they've just they've made such incredible improvements and in their gear over the past couple years so that's kind of what i've been that would kind of be the the sort of broad answer now if i wanted to have a little quiver with me if i'm bone fishing and it's a lighter air day i actually prefer a seven weight and and i'll carry seven weight with me most places if the wind comes up i'll i'll bump up to an eight weight um in striper fishing i'm probably using an eight weight and if the wind comes up i'm bumping up to a nine weight in tarpon uh 11 or 12 uh those those rods can handle you know multiple you know varied varied conditions um and then one species i didn't really cover um is is permit and a lot of people like to fish permit with the 10.
[6:43] Me personally, I like to fish permit with a 9 and I do like to use a shooting head with permit only because sometimes you're throwing big heavy flies at permit and to carry a heavy crab fly, you just need a little more oomph.
So with respect to permit, I'm usually using a 9 Um, but you know, want to leave the opportunity to bump it up to a 10 if need be.
But for me, I rarely go there.
Marvin:
[7:11] Yeah, got it. And, uh, we're on the street as you sometimes break the broad limit rule in boats to carry your quiver with you.
David:
[7:19] Yeah, that's true. You were speaking with Raul, who likes to make fun of me because when I'm out there tarpon fishing, I'll have a shorter rod for inside the mangroves, usually a nine.
I usually have an eight-weight for outside the mangroves, and then I'll have a regular nine-weight for throwing poppers.
Because where I go fishing in Mexico, in Campeche, fishing topwater stuff works really well.
And then in December, November, December, I usually bring a 10-weight down there with me because some migratory fish very often come in that are from 30 to 60 pounds.
And a 9-weight just doesn't quite do it.
So, yes, you know, Raul does like to make a little fun on occasion with me.
But I don't like to be without my quiver when I'm down there, for sure.
Marvin:
[8:11] Duly noted. Folks, we love questions at the Articulate Fly.
Email me or DM me on social media. Let's make David's life easier.
Remember the promotion.
We have two different ones. If you send us a question, we're going to send you a drawing for a RISE fishing company rod.
I don't know, David, if you want to say a little bit about that in a minute.
And then the grand prize, if we select your question during the series, we'll draw from those.
And that winner will get a Norvice system. So pretty cool.
But, David, do you want to say a little bit more about the Rise Fishing Company?
David:
[8:44] I mean, you know, the Rise Fishing Company, they're a small fly rod company that's got a pretty big punch.
And they make wonderful rods. They're local. They're based out of Long Island.
And they do make a really wonderful product.
So, you know, whoever is lucky enough to get a Rise rod from these broadcasts is going to really be in for a treat.
Marvin:
[9:12] Very neat. And I want to thank our friends at Norvice for generously sponsoring the series.
And Tim and Michelle and the rest of the pro team, they're tearing up the road.
This weekend, they'll be in Atlanta.
I think they're doing all of the Foremski shows. But if you go to www.nor-vice.com, you can see all of the show locations.
I mean, because they're going to be out in Utah and Idaho, all over the place.
And, you know, I think, David, you would attest that the best way to appreciate the Norvice is to actually see it in action.
David:
[9:43] Yeah, I would agree. It's so much different than other vices.
And until you actually sit down and noodle with it a bit and appreciate the engineering, you know, you take a look at it and you're like, what's this?
And when you start, you know, when you start tying, they're like, wow, this is pretty good, especially if you need something that's, you know, got rotary capability.
I mean, it's pretty much bar none.
It gives you incredible rotary performance for palmering and tying freshwater flies and some big saltwater stuff. It's pretty awesome.
Marvin:
[10:17] Yeah, absolutely. And what do you have on tap on the Masters of the Fly Front?
David:
[10:22] Well, we have some cool stuff. up, we have this Sunday, Captain Joe Blados, who is an incredible innovator and he was the inventor of the crease fly.
And I would challenge, I would just say, pretty much every single guide in the Northeast and maybe all the way down to Florida has a crease fly in their box there.
It would, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who doesn't have one.
And then right after, right after Joe, um, February 25th of all people, we've got Tim O'Neill.
Marvin:
[10:56] No, there you go.
David:
[10:58] So, uh, and then we have a couple more guests coming up and we'll talk about that on the next installment.
Um, and, And we're just confirming them now, so I don't want to announce them.
But, boy, don't miss Joe. And certainly, you know, don't miss Tim.
He's going to be talking about his Laken times in the Norvice.
So that'll be a lot of fun.
Marvin:
[11:18] Yeah, absolutely. You know, folks, even though it may not be the fishiest time of the year, there's a lot of stuff to do.
You can tie flies. You can go to a fly fishing show.
You know, if the weather's good where you are, you should go out and chase a few fish and, you know, make the most of it. because I think, you know, knock on wood, you know, we might, at least in the southeast, we're starting to kind of turn the corner on the deep freeze that we've been in.
And just want to, you know, encourage everybody to get out there and enjoy the season.
Tight lines, everybody. Tight lines, David.
David:
[11:50] Tight lines. You too.